Miscellaneous Thoughts on N. T. Wright and Theological Encyclopedia

N. T. Wright is all the rage these days.  He's the hottest theologian going and may be this generation's Karl Barth.  Whereas Barth's commentary on Romans may have been like a bomb exploding on the playgrounds of the theologians, Wright seems to have made a lifestyle out of exploding bombs on theological playgrounds.

Everyone is reading Wright, and since I take a backseat to no one when it comes to following the crowd, I am trying to get acquainted with Wright myself.  I am just getting started on Wright - I've listened to a few messages and read a few downloaded articles.  I've only skimmed J. Ligon Duncan's paper on him, so I really don't know enough yet to offer any intelligent opinions on his teaching.  In this post I want to take one statement of his on imputation, and use it as a springboard to another topic that is of interest to me, and hopefully to you.

I give that preface to hopefully head off some of the comments I know are going to come.  I am quite sure there will be some folks who will warn me of the dangers of dabbling with Wright.  And then there are his followers who will say that I don't understand him.  Please understand that though I don't know that much about Wright himself, I am well acquainted with his critics and advocates.  Almost to a man, his critics consider him to be a snake in the garden, and almost to a man, his followers think his critics misunderstand him, haven't read him, or haven't read enough of him.

I'm going a different road in this and hopefully it will be helpful to some of you.  I'll begin with a passage from an interview that Wright did with Travis Tamerius.  Then I will use that quote to spring into a couple of thoughts and a series of questions that came to mind.  I was reminded recently that asking the right questions is often as important as finding answers to those questions.

Here's the quote from the interview:

The imputation of Christ's righteousness is one of the big sticking points for sure. I think I know exactly what the doctrine is about and I believe you don't lose anything by the route I propose. The force of what people have believed when they have used the idea of imputation is completely retained in what I have tried to do. Why? Because in Christ we have all the treasures, not only of wisdom and knowledge (Colossians 1, and also I Corinthians 1), but in whom we have the entire package, meaning sanctification and wisdom, as well as righteousness. So Paul's theology of being in Christ gives you all of that. But the fact that it gives you more than that does rock you back on your heels a bit and prompt you to ask, "Have we made too much of this one thing called righteousness?" The key text, which is 2 Corinthians 5:21, has been read for generations, ever since Luther at least, as an isolated, detached statement of the wondrous exchange. When we do this we forget that the entire passage, for the three chapters that led up to it, and the chapter and a half that follow it (chapter six and the beginning of seven) are about apostleship. These are all about the strange way in which the suffering of the apostle somehow is transmuted into the revelation of God's glory. In the middle of this the statement occurs that God "made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." After this I started to read dikaiosune theou ("the righteousness of God") as "covenant faithfulness" in Romans. I then suddenly thought, "wait a minute." What about 2 Corinthians 5:21? And then I realized that the whole thing here is 2 Corinthians 3, the new covenant. God has made us ministers of a new covenant. We are embodying the covenant faithfulness of God. I can see how frustrating it is for a preacher who has preached his favorite sermon all these years on the imputation of Christ's righteousness from 2 Corinthians 5:21 to hear that this is not the right way to understand it but I actually think that there's an even better sermon waiting to be preached. You can always preach one on 1 Corinthians 1:30 so long as you do wisdom, sanctification, and redemption, all three.

The reason this is such a significant quote is that Wright is accused by many of denying the doctrine of imputation, which is particularly central to the reformed understading of justification and sanctification.

You can see that, in the answer he seems to affirm imputation, but he just dances around the issue and doesn't come right out and say it.  But, all in all, he seems to affirm the doctrine.  In fairness to his critics, Ligon Duncan, in the piece I mentioned above, says that Wright outright denies imputation in an e-mail exchange with a student.  He doesn't deny it in this quote, what he denies is the conventional interpretation of II Corinthians 5:21.  What Wright is saying here is that, if you believe in imputation you've got to look to a passage like I Cor 1:30 to find it.

What is also apparent is that, if Wright does believe in imputation, he doesn't emphasize it as much as the reformed tradition (and many other traditions).  The reformed tradition puts imputation front and center in its doctrine of justification and Wright seems to shrug his shoulders about the whole thing and say "that's fine if you want to do it, but Paul didn't make as a big of a deal out of it as you guys do."  For those who are familiar with Wright, one of his big issues is that he contends that the church hasn't done justice to the historical setting of the New Testament in its reading of it.  In all eras, the modern concerns of that particular era have provided the lens through which the church has read the Scripture.

But getting back on point, here are the questions I want to raise from this quick look at Wright?

1. Is Wright denying a doctrine or the conventional exegesis of a particular passage of Scripture? 

In the above passage Wright is arguing with the conventional interpretation of II Corinthians 5:21, but he doesn't seem to be arguing against the doctrine of imputation per se.  Which leads to another question . . .

2. Should we judge a person's orthodoxy by how they handle the exegesis of particular passages of Scripture, or by their overall doctrinal positions? 

My question, in and of itself, prejudices the matter because I have framed it as an either/or when it's not so cut and dried.  In this case let's suppose the doctrine of imputation is built solely on II Cor. 5:21 (which it is not).  But if it were, then if the conventional interpretation of II Cor. 5:21 is found faulty, then the doctrine attached to it collapses.  At that point we either have to create a new orthodoxy to accomodate the new exegesis or we have to condemn the exegesis as heretical. 

But I think we also need to be careful about knee jerk reactions.  We may be hearing the denial of a doctrine when all that is really being denied is the exegesis of a particular passage.  Probably the best example of this is in debates about the length of creation days.  It is not uncommon for someone who believes in say, the day-age theory or the framework theory of Genesis 1-2 to be accused of denying the inerrancy of Scripture.  That is patently wrong - many day-agers and frameworkers deny a particular interpretation of a particular passage of Scripture while affirming inerrancy. 

So, we ought to be careful and pay attention to the nuances of individuals like Wright and others.  Wright may in fact be heretical, but if you're going to burn him, burn him for the (W)right heresy.

3.  How do we determine the importance of a particular doctrine in the theological encyclopedia? 

One of the problems that many have with Wright is that, even if he does believe in imputation, he doesn't make that big a deal of it, and he's not clear about it.  In reading Wright, it seems that he either doesn't believe in imputation at worst, or thinks it is a peripheral concern of Paul's at best.  To Wright, imputation isn't as important as it is to many of us, particularly those in the Reformed tradition.  He treats as peripheral something we treat as central and treats as central things we treat as peripheral.

But who decides and how do we decide what is central to the Christian faith, or what is of utmost importance in the theological encyclopedia?  We all intuitvely suspect that some doctrines are more important than others - i.e. what you believe about justification is more important than what you believe about baptism or eschatology.  But then again, on what basis do we believe this?  Do the Scriptures contain a table of contents or an answer key which tell which matters are of utmost importance and which are peripheral?  They don't.  So what justification do we have for saying that one's view of imputation is more important than one's view of something else?

Well, I said I was only asking questions but I'll take a stab at that last one.  Romans 14 is a classic passage on the fact that there are some matters that are legitimately disputable and it is reasonable to conclude that they are therefore, lesser matters.  Those are things that we are to agree to disagree on.  Then Romans 16:17 tells us to mark those who cause divisions and stay away from them.  There are some matters which we ought to divide over - these are weightier matters.  Hence, there is Scriptural warrant for believing that some matters are more important than others.

The book of Galatians gives us a clue to what the weightiest matters are - matters pertaining to the gospel.  I realize that Galatians is a battleground between Wright and his critics but I'll skip that debate for now and simply point out that the gospel is central here.

Having said all of that, we've got very rough Scriptural outlines for determining what doctrines are of utmost importance.  But we want to be careful about this.  We should all have the humility to admit that our ideas of what is most important are often governed by extra-biblical factors. In the reformation era disputes over the nature of the sacraments were life and death matters, today they are matters of yawning for most evangelicals.  In my own reformed tradtion there are all kinds of arguments about what is of utmost importance.  I have had my salvation called into question because of statements to the effect that we can enjoy fellowship with Arminians and Dispensationalists, and have also been chastized for placing too much importance on the five points of Calvinism.

But where this hits home for me in the discussion about Wright is that, if I am reading him correctly, he places a greater aspects on the corporate aspects of salvation than on the individual aspects.  I have to admit that I have had a gnawing suspicion along those same lines for the last few years.

In the evangelical church the matter that we generally treat as of first importance is the matter of how an individual can get to heaven.  The gnawing started when I read the sermon Public Worship to be Preferred Before Private, and grew as I studied more and more about the biblical teachings on covenant community.  Whereas individual salvation is of utmost importance to us today, I have come to think the New Testament gives greater weight to the task of creating a community of believers.  Granted, an individual's salvation is of great importance, but it is a means to a greater end - that of shaping the covenant community.

In modern evangelicalism, individual salvation is of first importance and the covenant community is peripheral.  How often do we say to people that its not important that you go to church, what is important is that you believe in Jesus.  But what if, in God's mind, the most important thing is building the church?  Now what do we tell people?  True we can never tell them that they will be saved by becoming a member of the church, but shouldn't we then tell them that the purpose of being saved is to become a part of the church?  So, one's personal salvation is not the thing of greatest importance but is a means to a greater end.

I've gotten a bit off track here, but in some of the back and forth I have heard regarding Wright I have gotten the impression that people are not only arguing the issues themselves, but are also arguing about the weight that should be given to particular issues.  Its kind of like being a football fan.  In my house, we are Florida Gators.  It would be a terrible insult to me for one of my sons to say "yeah dad, the Gators are an good football team, but they aren't the greatest team in the country."  Such words would be heresy - its not enough to acknowledge that the Gators are merely "good," - if you wanna call yourself a child of mine you better be as fanatical about the Gators as I am.

Wright and his opponents both think they know what was of utmost importance in Paul's (and therefore God's) mind.  And I am just encouraging a little humility in the attempt to disceern what St. Paul or anyone else was really thinking.

And all of this brings me to a final question . . .

4. Must we always frame things in either/or terms?

As I wrote those last few paragraphs I realized I got a bit off track into some areas of personal concern and/or interest and it also occurred to me that I am framing some of the discussion in either/or terms and that this is not always helpful.  To argue that either the corporate or the individual aspect of salvation is more important than the other may creating an unnecessary dichotomy. 

I am currently reading the book I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be An Atheist by Geisler and Turek and they make a big deal of the importance of either/or thinking, especially as it ties into the law of non-contradiction.  They use Ravi Zacharias's famous illustration where someone once told him that in the west people use "either/or" thinking, but that in the east they should use "both/and" thinking.  To which Ravi replies, "So you're telling me that when I am in the east I have a choice - I can either use 'either/or' thinking or 'both/and' thinking."  Then Ravi says that when he is in India he still looks both ways before crossing the street because its either him or the bus. 

This is a valid principle and is helpful for showing the fallacies in many lines of reasoning.  But it is not an absolute paradigm through which all of life and faith are to be viewed.  There are things that we think are dichotomies that aren't.  In his book Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God, J. I. Packer tells the story of how Spurgeon once responded to a question of how he reconciles divine sovereignty and human freedom.  Spurgeon replied, "I never try to reconcile friends."

Again, getting back to the whole debate about Wright I am wondering if part of the problem is that both sides are turning both/and's into either/or's unnecessarily.  Maybe they aren't, but I wonder. 

One of my favorite books is Moises Silva's book Has the Church Misread the Bible.  In it, he takes to task the conventional wisdom that says the church has misread the bible throughout some (much) of its history.  In the last few centuries it has been a common practice to give a patronizing laugh at earlier scholars who used outdated methods of interpretation like the allegorical method and the quadriga.  Silva goes to great lengths to show that these folks weren't dummies - they had some legitimate concerns and reasons for taking the approaches they did and they are not without value to us today.

Similarly, I think Wright (or maybe it's his followers) may be too easily dismissing pre New Perspective exegesis and his opponents may be too easily dismissing his own concerns.  True, there may be some issues raised in this debate that demand an either/or response.  But I am not convinced that we must choose either the Old Perspective or the New Perspective.

So, those are some of the questions that came to mind and a few initial and staggering attempts to answer some of my own questions.  As always, any feedback is welcome and appreciated.

Comments

[iMonk]

When I first started reading NTW, I began with his small books on Paul. I soon concluded, however, that if I was going to be able to participate in discussions about Wright, I needed to read the "Big Books." It took a long time, but I have now read NT and the People of God, and Jesus and the Victory of God, as well as many smaller books.

It is absolutely fundamental to read and understand Wright on Jesus before evaluating the critics who fault Wright for his views on imputation. Wright relates Jesus and Paul in ways that are essential to grasp.

My observation is that 90% of the criticism of Wright is aimed at one book: What St. Paul Really Said. This is really unfortunate. Wright's work is a project- a very large project, and it all grows out of his work on how the whole New Testament works together, and how Jesus and Paul work together.

Good post. Very sane and sensible. Expect nasty mail :-)

[Mark Olson]

As one who has been reading a lot of Wright lately myself I find him very persuasive. I've the disadvantage (compared to you) of not knowing all the time when he is explaining the orthodox view or "exploding bombs". To toot my own (bloggy) horn, my Christian Carnival entry for this week was on a lecture of Wright's (here: http://www.pseudopolymath.com/archives/2005/05/a_wright_spirit.html).

The link to the lecture (not too long) is there too. I thought that lecture wasn't very unorthodox (and would be interested if you concur), and that it had a very succinct summary of Paul's Romans/Galations take on how Christians should view Law (Torah).

[Steve Thompson]

The best question is why should anyone want to go to church these days? What does a church do on Sunday morning that is mandated by the New Testament? To what extent does the church in the modern Western world conform to NT commands? Why are there so few real NT (not early Church, but NT) practices and so many traditions of men? What is there in church that we should care about? If you say the people, then I would say we can do that better outside the conventional church. If you say worship God, I would say we can do that better outside the conventional church, also.

If Wright cares more about the church and less about the individual, then what does he think should be done about the state of the modern church?

This may seem to be off subject, but I believe it has direct bearing. How much does the individual Christian need the Church as it now exists in the modern Westerrn world? Since we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, what is there about the MODERN church that we need?

I know we need the church that is described in the NT, but that is NOT what we have. Why do we need the church we have?

[Jared]

Ditto what the iMonk said.

What's interesting to me is, I can count on one hand the number of Wright books (not counting his commentaries) I haven't read. WSPRS happens to be one of those few I haven't. Yet no matter what I post about Wright or from Wright, the criticism I get inevitably comes from someone hacked about WSPRS.

If I post an excerpt from Wright on Easter, someone reminds me Wright is wrong on imputation.
If I post about Wright and Jesus' cleansing of the temple, someone reminds me Wright is wrong on imputation.
If I post a short, funny quip from Wright, someone reminds me Wright is wrong on imputation.
If I just mention Wright's name, someone . . . well, you get the picture.

[DLE]

David,

Just the other day I blogged about my inability to discern what most modern Christian writers are actually saying in their works (click on my Name for the link.) It seems like you are experiencing the same difficulty with Wright.

It disturbs me that I can read paragraph after paragraph of some modern writer's explanation of a theological point, but when I get to the end I am no closer to understanding that point than when I started.

I don't seem to have this same problem with a lot of the old Christian classics that have endured the test of time. So I am left wondering why so many of the recent books are goobledygook. I feel like I'm having a stroke somewhere in mid-thought when reading modern works. It's like the newer writers want to challenge the older ones or they want to say something outlandish or even heretical, but they simply can't bring themselves to say it.

None of this is advancing our understanding of God or deepening our hold on good doctrine.

I'll stick with the oldies.

[pgepps]

I find your comments on "either/or" and "both/and" thinking very interesting. I recommend a method of dealing with these: let's call it "binocular vision."

I began exploring this with a college prof of mine who was, in lit study (always with an eye to Biblical truth, especially concerning the Resurrection), trying to uphold the value of "synthetic" or "analogical" thinking. The modern move par excellence has been the positioning of "logical" or "analytic" thinking as the means to truth.

Now, at the outset of the modern era, that may have seemed quite valid: centuries of reasoning by analogy, synthesizing systems from (often disparate) elements of revelation and reason, had left a very wide field of fire for the analytical, logical method.

Nonetheless, the successes of analysis depend upon the prior existence of a large body of similitudes to be distinguished among. Logic and analysis are *eliminative* methodologies; from a body of possible statements, logic allows us to reject those which do not cohere, with something always "given" as that which true statements must be coherent with.

When analysis has done its work, however, synthesis must take up again. There are two reasons for this: analysis may err, distinguishing in the whole those things which are dissimilar only in part; and the incompleteness of our knowledge means that, when the error has been eliminated, there remains more truth to be discovered.

The method to discovering truth, I am sure, requires the work of both those who "see things according to their similitudes" and those who "distinguish things according to their difference." The poet, for instance, proceeds on a dominantly synthetic path; the critic proceeds on a principally analytic path.

Similarly, theology has begun to be impoverished by an eliminativist overemphasis, an anxiety of error unalloyed with a confidence in the Spirit's ability to guide those who are Christ's. It is important that we begin to seek the analogies, the similitudes among things, and to *add* to our understanding in this manner, even as we also seek to detect our errors and clarify our expressions through rigorous analytic work.

The church needs scholars, theologians, and pastors with the "binocular vision" to both see the family resemblance of truth to truth, and the *careful* use of analysis to cut away the doppelgangers that trip up even the most devout of theological inquirers from time to time.

Cheers,
PGE

[brad]

David,
I think your point of individual sanctification being a means to a greater end of corporate sanctification (my wording) is of utmost importance. i wrote an essay a few years back called "God's Ultimate Purpose"
http://www.trinityartesia.org/currentteachingseries/cts_template1.html
which argues this point. This is huge to understnading what it really means to be a Christian and be committed to God's will.
brad

[Tim]

"Yet no matter what I post about Wright or from Wright, the criticism I get inevitably comes from someone hacked about WSPRS."

I don't see why that should surprise you. If I were to write 1000 good posts on my blog, but then wrote another one stating, for example, that I run a pornography company out of my basement (and to alleviate any trouble, I will state here that this is a ficticious example), I would expect people to filter the rest of what I write through that information. Similarly, Wright can write all sorts of good information, but when he begins to deny some of the foundations of the faith, people refuse to see much further. It casts a shadow on his entire ministry.

How many Calvinists no longer read Dave Hunt after "What Love is This?" It's much the same, isn't it?

[David Wayne]

Tim - I'm with Jared on this. Something similar happens when we evangelicals quote C. S. Lewis or as protestants we quote G. K. Chesterton. Lewis was weak on many crucial doctrines and so you have to have your biblical filters on him anytime you read, yet he has so much of value to read that many of us want to encourage everyone we know to read him. Even someone as doctrinally precise and diligent as John Piper says that Lewis is a real hero. The same thing happens with Chesterton. George Grant, who is as thoroughly reformed as they come quotes Chesterton in almost every talk and he says that after many of his talks someone invariable pulls him aside and whispers "psst . . . George, did you know that Chesterton is Catholic." He laughs. Of course we all know Chesterton is Catholic and of course we all know that Lewis really wouldn't make a good evangelical, but we still recommend them highly.
Your point is well taken - we have to filter everyone we read. I even filter John MacArthur. Being the flaming covenantalist that I am I always have my radar up for his dispensationalism. But I am in so much agreement with him in so many other areas that I don't feel compelled to warn my fellow covenantalists to be on guard against him.
I think we ought to give the same courtesy to Wright. It may be the case that he, like Lewis or Chesterton, hold views that many of us are against. But I think we ought to let each of his views stand on their own as we critique them.

[Jared]

Tim, it does surprise me, not only because skirting around a Reformed distinctive is not as demonstrable a sin as professional lust, but because it demonstrates to me that the peanut gallery we get on The Thinklings site sometimes is more beholden to a Reformed distinctive than they are to charity when truth is spoken.

George MacDonald was a universalist. If I posted a quote from MacDonald on, say, the incomparable beauty of the Psalms, do you really think it a) relevant and b) appropriate for someone to chime in, "But he was a universalist!"

So what? If he's right, he's right.

Personally, I am not well versed enough in the New Perspective to stake my claim either way. All of my Wright reading has been on Jesus and the Gospels. I have found him incredibly profitable and enlightening on those subjects. I don't agree with him on all things -- for instance, I think he is too weak on Jesus' messianic consciousness, and I disagree with him, as far as I understand him, on divine election -- but when I believe he is saying something good and true, I don't dismiss it or him because of the things I differ with him on.

And, again, seriously -- failing to toe the Reformed party line is a sin akin to p()rnography? I know it was just an analogy for illustrative purposes, but come on.

Can we not champion discernment without demonizing those with which we disagree?

[Scott Smith]

Forgive me for not having read all the previous comments before posting my own. I just wanted to make a note on something you mentioned regarding the "false dichotomy" of individual vs. corporate salvation, and I want to concur in that I believe many people force this seperation between the two onto the canvas of "New Testament thought." It seems to me both views seem to miss the point entirely in that they always view one as the means and one as the end rather than both as simultaneous ends. There is no invidual salvation apart from corporate salvation because "no man is an island," community and relationships form the very nature of what it means to be a "new creation in Christ;" and there is no corporate salvation apart from individual salvation because there is no such thing as a community without individuals.

[Tim]

Jared/David,

I was not saying that I agree with such a view, but was merely pointing out why it should not surprise you that people jump up and yell "Yeah, but!" when you mention Wright, even if you only mention those parts where he is right and non-controversial. As I said, the places where he is wrong casts a shadow over everything else.

[Jared]

Tim, that's one way to look at it.

I prefer to think that all the places where he is right cast a great shadow over the few places he might be wrong.
I certainly hope my friends and readers feel the same way about me!

[brad]

I have read pretty much NT Wright lately and on the new perspectice. I see NT Wright as recovering the baby that got thrown out with the bath water. In other words, Wright is recovering the big corporate picture and interpreting Paul in light of this story and subsequent worldview. As a classically trained moderninst and a conservative evangelical, I cannot teach what Wright says as the "meaning of the text". For example, Wright interprets being "in Christ" as being "in the body of Christ". But I can't do that because that is not what the text says. So this is what I do. I preach the in the body of Christ as the application of the theology of being in Christ. Now, what that is is my weakness. As a modern 21st Century mind I cannot help but seperate theory from practice. To Wright practice and story generate theory and worldview. So I preach that "you will never know justification until we as a church practice confession and forgiveness". Our story must inform our worldview. So here is the way to let Wright's insight and perspective inform our teaching is to actually build a community that is "a no condemnation zone" for example if we want people to know justification as their story and worldview. The problem is we have such difficulty realizing that the world of the mind cannot live in a vacuum shut off from the actual community we live in.

[kyle]

Gaah! I tried to read that sermon, and it was like attempting to swim through molasses. Can somebody translate that thing for me?

[dan]

Thanks for the thoughtful post on Wright. I must say that Wright's thinking on the Resurrection is without peer in evangelical scholarship. I greatly appreciate the fact he has and does make much of the resurrection of Christ and its implications for all of life. He may not talk enough about imputation but he talks more about the Resurrection than any other modern writer/pastor that I can think of. And if my memory serves me right, I think the Resurrection was fairly important to the Apostle Paul (1 Corinthians for one example!):-).

Thanks again, David, for the great post.

[kristin]

I am interested in your topic of, "should we qualify authors who don't hold to our evangelical doctrine if we recommend them or use their stuff (my own words)". I see how one could quote Lewis and feel comfortable that if a layperson church member went home and read him they would not be led astray. But what about if a pastor dealves into the realm of Newbigin, Stanley Hauerwas or Walter Brueggemann as is happening in my church? My pastor seems to be taking only the good out of what these guys believe and nothing said so far has been wrong per say, but what if someone goes home and reads these guys and doesn't have discernment? Is it discerning to even bring these guys up or use their stuff when there is so much you disagree with? Should it be qualified from the pulpit if you do use their stuff? One of our church's sermons was on Brueggemann's look at the Psalms. Disorientation, reorientation and new orientation. And yet, he seems so off base on how to interpret the scriptures. I keep going back and forth on this issue so was interested when I saw the subject broached here.

[Joshua Walker]

Good post. I appreciate that you're at least trying to become acquainted with Wright and his ideas. I was told by some hardcore Reformers not to read him because he denies everything orthodox, which is farthest from the truth. One thing that I must comment on. NT Wright actually does outright deny the doctrine of imputation, in its traditional understanding of course, in What Saint Paul Really Said. It's important to note that his definition of imputation is that God's righteousness or moral character is somehow passed to a person in the courtroom so that they can be justified. From my understanding, he is denying that God somehow puts his righteousness into some account that we have. God's righteousness can never be separated from himself. This is why he emphasizes union with Christ. Christ's righteousness never passes to us, but rather we are in him and he is righteous. And honestly I think he separates union with Christ from justification as well.

[Joel Haas]

Kristin, why on earth would you list Newbigin in a list of dangerous teachers?

In my view, having only dabbled with Wright, he serves as a slap-in-the-face challenge to Reformed evangelicals to truly be Reformed evangelicals. We are so confident in our assertion that Scripture is our absolute and final authority, but when Wright comes in arguing something from his study of Scripture we quote the Westminster Confession or the writings of Martin Luther and think that this is sufficient. The PCA (of which I am a member) is the worst for this! If anybody is going to disagree with Wright, then study Scripture like crazy and combat him on serious biblical grounds (and not just, "see, it says that we become the righteousness of God", as if that undermines Wright's point, which is that that very sentence has been misinterpreted throughout some/much of church history).

Us Reformed folks can be quite arrogant and pompous, and a little too certain, and unwilling to ask tough questions, about the infallibility of our own magisterium, I mean teachings.

I really appreciated your post, David. It is good to have examples of Christian teachers who show grace while being concerned for truth. N. T. Wright is unsettling because if he really is correct about some stuff, then we are lifted out of our comfortable theological positions and forced to renew our minds in ways we didn't expect. And even if he is not correct, then we must praise God for the ways that N. T. Wright is spreading the good news of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ to many people in Europe and North America!

[Jewbait]

Never forget::The Gods have created positioning to conceal their true intent in each and every dyanmic we see in society.
We truely live in The Matrix:::There is the way things look and there is the God's REAL reason for doing things.

Employment charity:::Was W able to do his job as President?
I suspect there are many frat-boy types who could not or would rather not have studied nor do the work necessary so they gained this "benefit" telepathically. This could have been extended to their professional life as well::In most of these cases they don't have what it takes to do their jobs.
I think employment charity is FAR more common than people may believe.
Another example how they tempted people in this manner is the procurement of sexual relations.
Consistant with The Matrix, the Gods positioned both to these people which gained their confidence. But what they don't know is this behavior actually hurts them::They were offered temptation and they fell for it. And one day, if they are to have a future, they will be punished.
Keep raping these poor girls. You're going to end up as one in your next life.

Capitalism is evil because of the exploitative nature, illustrated with this Situation.
Muslims are correct:::Earning interest is evil.
Unlike war, which is a temporary period where the citiens incurr evil due to the decisions of the leaders, capitalism by its very nature incurrs evil for those who participate into perpetuity, an "institutional" method of incurring evil for the disfavored who engage in it. Inherant in earning interest is the exploitation of others, capitalizing on assets and exploiting the workforce for profit.
Understand the destructive nature of this element of evil we call the United States, for it spreads this cancer under the guise of "democracy" throughout the world.
Look for other institutional evil as related to the United States because as the land of disfavor castoff rejects there will be plenty of examples.

Examine my examples. They illustrate the God's reverse positioning used to confuse and disceive people who have made big mistakes in past lives.
I illustrate a certain way to think. If you doubt what I teach, if this is not your time to learn please at least completely understand this way of thinking, because when your time does come you will be able to refer to it and you will begin to see the God's pattern within the context of their positioning.
Nobody is going to save you. Christianity is a lie. And only through thinking correctly will you have a real chance to begin doing the right things.

Typical for the young, they become corrupt and remain ignorant for a period of time in their lives, typically until their children are raised and grown. Poetic justice ensures they receive a similar experience when reincarnated.
Fighting these wars hurts everyone because we all pay for the sins of our leaders, and by participating these ignornat youth make it possible for these events to occurr. So even if you are against the war, since you are a citizen you incurr because of the evil your country is engaged in.
And there is no getting around it.
Artifical Intelligence is one of the God's tools, all of which are used as temptation. And it will always test the young with this temptation of "earning", sadly leading to a lifetime of corruption.

Students becoming angry and violent in the UC protests. Beggining to remind me of labor riots of the 20th century.
We all know what's happening here:::These white men at the top have voted themselves $400k pay and retirement packages like the $340k retired fire chief, loading up their friends on the payroll during the boom 90s through the real estate bust while all services which the program were intended to fund now get cut to pay for it.
Incidentally, corporate sucessfully transistioned to cheap labor in nearly ALL "muscle" industries. Why should fire be any different??
It was temptation, and the Gods are going to make them pay for it. Unfortunately, so will everybody else:::
Reincarnation is very real. It is OUR national debt. And odds are you're all coming back to the United States::Like the ghetto, you have to "earn" your way out.

Anger about Messerlee. Understandable.
They need to understand this man was pushed into the offense. Cops have been getting away with killings like this for a long time. Blacks in the South know this all too well. Each time they were all confident the Blue Shield would protect them, and it did. The difference is in many IF NOT MOST of these cases they were rogue cops who the Gods tempted. They did it intentionally thinking they were "earning", knowing they would get away with it. Contradictory to appearances, they were the ones whom the Gods disliked, while the Messerlees of the world who get caught are being punished, feedback reserved for those whom are still qualified in the eyes of the Gods.
There are those in the ghetto whom are singled out, targets of the community whom everybody hates. The rogue cops in the South who are guilty of these kind of killings have been reincarnated into roles like this. It's just one of the clues the Gods offer to the community. Lucky for those preditors the ghetto has been an ignorant community, but I think that might be changing.

Of course there could be anoher possibility:::::Due to the history and resulting legacy of hatred for the Gods, since I am guarenteed a spot on the next Planet Earth I will be the original "bad seed":::The Lucifer-figure of the next reality. Unlike Christian dogma, he may just represent the solitary target of the God's ire early, a disgruntled asshole who pissed the Gods off, the proverbial "apple" of the next reality, beginning the process which leads planets to where we are today. A crucial figure in any planet's history, he represents the "beginning of the end".

People, especially liberals give W a very hard time.
Don't forget what I say:::Everything today is both good and evil. The Gods have positioned it as such as we have become increasingly disfavored, confusing the enviornment.
Republicans and conservatives as well, only they fall more on the good side while their adversaries fall more on the evil side, quite contrary to the God's positioning.
Yes, W's evil is illustrated in the United State's efforts in Iraq, and the "Red State"r's who believe we were "earning" are among the worst of them.
If conservatives fall on the side of good, Fox News falls on the side of evil. They pander to the type of trash my brother is, the kind of trash who thinks their war mongering efforts "earn" for them and all others who think like them.
Anyways, it is positioned that W trashed the economy before he left office. Selfish it didn't happen while he was in office, granted, but economic turmoil is a motivator. It's not cancer, mind you, but many have begun praying hard because of their experinces in this event, and it says something about those affected as opposed to those sheltered from affect.
One day just as they will allow vaccines to diseases, especially AIDS, encouraging deviacy the likes which hasn't been seen since the 70s, they will allow cures for cancer, MS, COPD, alcoholism, etc.
Women's diseases will be last. Just as research into women's diseases receive the least amount of funding so is it justified their cures come last, and both for the same reason:::They have the most favor, and the Gods use their diseases as a motivator to pray and find the path. As such they get God's benefit as long as they are willing to offer it.

I suspect many attempts have begun already, but as time goes on the Gods will test people's religious resolve with an insurmuntable positioning stating Christianity is the one true religion. We've seen their efforts in Latin America, in the Philippines and most recently in Vietnam, India and the demonizing of Islam.
They intend to test your resolve as Muslims, for those who sell out and flee to Christianity will be subject to their positioning.
Blacks are the most disfavored of all people. We see it in their temptation-ridden culture, which the Civil Rights "assimilation" has allowed, in their sexual behavior. The Gods used their position of the Italians to do their dirty work, implimenting the crack epidemic, the black civil war of the 80s and 90s, AIDS in Africa, "pimp" subculture, etc. The Gods created this positioning of Italian's preditory behavior on Africans to reflect their own disfavor towards that group, allowing them to get what they want without accepting culpability, convieniently. As such, come the Apocalypse those who abandon their true selves, their religion and their dedication to it will be victims in this deceptive Christian theater.
Blacks that opt for the "easy way out" will ironically lose their lives in the Apocalypse. Only those who remain true to their religion, its strict methods and lifestyle, and resist the outside temptations stating their are going the wrong way will emerge out of the carnage of The End of Time. They are highly suspectable to temptation and they need their religion to help them be strong and resist it. They will be better people for it and superior to the Christians in the end.

This is the life of utmost importance. People need to listen, understand and learn from me and make the changes I prescribe. Without, they will have no chance at ascending into heaven before the Apocalypse, and the only hope they will have is 1000 years with Jesus, which is no sure thing.
Even so, assuming they are rewarded with 1000 years with Jesus, they will be offered all manners of temptations, for it will be THE Big Party at The End, and if they don't address these problems now, while they have this chance to learn this activity is evil, before society declares it socially acceptable, they will be granted some fraction of 1000 years and be disposed of thereafter, when the party "dies down", pardon the pun.
Also, disgusted by their behavior, the Gods have created a subculture which celebrates partying in the black community, guarenteeing that "requirement" is satisfied so they are never "invited".
Only those people who never began the temptations or who addressed these issues and remedied the problems will move on to the next Planet Earth. And we are still approximately 4 lifetimes away, most of which I expect to be revelry years::A population either getting their party now or groomed for a short stay after the Apocalypse. By that time even the most conservative Christian will be tested to see if they can establish this destructive legacy of revelry.
Move on to a new Planet Earth. This is their second chance::::They have to start over. Either they ascend into heaven from their planet of origin or they don't ascend as all, and that's how the system works.
It's a very small population which exists at the dawn of agrarianism because most have sccumbed to temptation and failed to achieve their second chance on the new Planet Earth.

I have said diseases, such as cancer, won't be going anywhere, no matter how much money is thrown at it, no matter how much money is raised. These diseases are important tools used by the Gods to help people do the right thing:::Cancer has compelled more than a few women to begin praying and behave appropriately.
In this environment of decay, the Gods will eventually eliminate these motivations one day. Positioning states cures/vaccines are positive developments which display life is improving. Unfortunately, this is just another example of how the Gods utilize "reverse positioning" which has been very effective in promoting deceptive elements in society, such as democracy, Christianity and Californication, Hollywood being the primary tool used to spread the message of The Beast.
Similarly, other motivations which have complelled people to turn to the Gods for solice will begin to disappear as well::::Economic recession/turmoil, Unlike the Christian Bible's version, the Apocalypse will not be preceeded by ruin and desperation. Just the opposite, there will be peace and personal satisfaction leading to The End, ensuring the Gods can control the group selected for the Second Coming event.

The irony of the Apocalypse::::
People told not to follow the Second Coming, who fail to recognize the urgency of the moment and die in the Apocalypse because of it.
The Gods will account for people who do not sell out to Christianity, however difficult due to temptation.
It will become difficult to remain Muslim in this environment. It will be positioned that everyone except Christians are The Damned and will die come The End.
This positioning, and how all this goes down come the Apocalypse, will just be the God's attempt at testing people with temptation, for it will matter in The End to those whom suceed.

Christianity is responsible for African slavery. The Italian men who ran the church set out to gain revenge for the invasion of Italy and, still the largest landowner in Europe, used their considerable clout with the thrones of England to achieve this.
The Gods used Christianity to destroy the cultures of Europe and around the world, replaced with the patriarchal standard which it imposed.
The Gods used temptation to compell the Italians to do their dirty work for them, punishment for evils of black people, and that extened into the 20th century with Civil Rights, the crack epidemic, gang membership/the "thug life" and even AIDS in Africa, a recycling of the biotechnology product originally intened for the gay community.
As with everything there is always a real reason behind their positioning, and in both cases it is punishment for deviate behavior.

Being "schitzo", the internal battle between good and evil, is a deteriorating generational issue that is dying off, much like I illustrated for punishment below:::
This new generation, who were the grandparents of their parents, are an early evil generation and one whom became corrupted and fell for societal temptation readily available for them and every generation of the masses thereafter.
Their parents came before that generation, the agrarian masses, God-fearing, absent for the temptation offerings of early modern society (Roaring 20s vs. 60s/70s). As a result whereas Dad has great internal conflict I refer to as schitzo because of his connection to his past his children will be less so, perhaps far less so depending on grade of sins in their prior life, decreasing generationally until they have all become Godless, immoral monsters.

"Californication" - The tool the Gods use to brainwash the people, amplifying disfavor level as we approach the Apocalypse by merely fitting into society.
Poisoning their brainwashed minds...corrupted by society, AI convinces people "earning" is the way, compelling them into evil. This is falling for temptation, while Californication ensures at least a minimal amount of damage, ensuring a minimal amount of generational progress towards the Apocalypse.
I demand another. I have signed off. Give the disfavored another and without all the defensive tactics, cowards.
Pick out someone else, do this again and discard this Situation.
The people who have learned were going to learn anyways. They're not the ones who need it.
The disfavored need it, people like my family, too far gone for any hope at ascention before The End, and they should be allowed moments if not periods of clarity before the decision is made about them.
"Decay is inherent in all component things. Work out your own salvation with diligence." - Buddha

I have explained how the gods are phasing out punishment as we get closer to the Apocalypse. Disfavor levels dictate there is insufficient time to repair their problems, relegating people to the Second Coming event.
I mentioned how old timers today may experience hell, albeit a "toned down" experience, consistant with the elimination of teaching of Hell in typical Christian educations. I suspect the same is true in the context of prison:::The gods maintain a contstantly decreasing number of punitive intsitutions in case there is a need. But, over time they will be eliminated and the entire system will be quite amicable. Look for this pattern elsewhere as well, for the Gods are eliminating punishment throughout in preparation for the Apocalypse, for it is no longer necessary.

The Gods send clues about this situation frequently.
Eddie of Iron Maiden. Consider the cover of the album "Number of the Beast" and how it was used to create pathologies.
Closure of Fitsgeralds Reno/getting kicked out of Fits LV 1990 for "counting cards" after 5 minutes and $20:::Accusation of the innocent.
WWII's other holocaust:::Unit 731:::tsushogo. Tsushogo was a clue from the Gods illustrating their positioning long before it began. Incidentally, the used it to hurt the Chinese and position against future Japanese sucess by burying their atrocities.
The Concorde. The Czech automobile Yugo.
1990 blackjackat Binion's Horseshoe/Rounders/current poker phenominah. Just as with any of the prophets, the Gods use me as temptation to compensate. This is our temptation in today's modern superficial, sensationalistic enviornment.
Ken Jennings. Million-dollar slot. 12.08.20 & 12.8.80 (last birthday). KGC. King Tut 2005-2011.
More below::The Gods have created an endless list over the last four+ decades. This Situation is a monster.

They have shared that when the change is initially made they alter the DNA with Artificial Intelligence, ensuring it is not the same person.
Now depending on their level of activity the Gods switch out for new individuals, ie presidents switched frequently. They say they bring the (m)father's DNA when it is time to conceive, so it is strategically important who is in there for the conception of the children. The same may not be true for typical activity:::the Gods may alter the DNA upon initial clone hosting but it may be a general change. Conception requires specific DNA.
And? So?
So there are no Rockafellers. This was how the Gods eliminated their true importance, for now they are little more than lowly English peasants, ironically.
Nothing is ever going to change.
Now the case can be made that far more men are invited into clone hosting than women, and since lineage is matrilineal it would rather follow that blood line instead.
All it takes is one.
But I wonder if it even matters. Those who learn and are wise enough to refuse the offer of clone hosting still have to repair their relationship with the Gods and hope for a better placement in their next life, one which certainly won't involve being a billionaire. Whether real Rockafellers or DNA alternates is of no concequence. Their goal is still ascention, which takes work and dedication. Being/thinking you're capitalism royalty invites a host of temptations, including grandeur and self-importance, which are all damaging to a good relationship with the Gods.
If only they can overcome the temptations that money brings, like ample stunning women and Scarface piles of cocaine.
The consequence of clone hosting is the loss of ascention into heaven. The best they can hope for is 1000 years with Jebus in a temptation-infested enviornment where one can have anything they want.

Just as the victims of Mengele's "showers which clentch you of your life" were the Italians who conceived and implimented WorldWarII's Blitzkreig, so do I think the unholy alliance between evil Japan and good Germany is the cause of the "Siamese Twins" Mengele experiment:::"sewen together, joining heads, just a matter of time before you rip yourselves apart".
World War II, the Holocaust were revenge for Germany's 5th century AD invasion of the dying Roman Empire.
Those at the top are the ones who suffered the worst because of their intimate involvement. Perhaps it was the godfather who experienced the "frozen water burial" "crack your limbs".
Praying for the end of your wide-awake nightmare...
How was the Holocaust positioned? What did the Italians have against the Jews? The Romans destroyed Temple. Perhaps Joshua...
What is the God's real reason behind WWII? Punishment?
For what? The Crusades? It was a fight supporting evil Christianity, in defense of evil against their religious superiors. For this the Germans should pay.
Punished for being war mongers.

Go ahead and ignore this. You won't ever defy and do the right thing anyways.
"These came to life again and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." Revelation 20:4. Reference to reincarnation? I wouldn't be surprised if everyone who has ever been on Planet Earth still is, outside of those who have ascended as children, and it is evident by the population explosion, the Apocalypse being a true "clearinghouse" event in this planet's history.
Don't forget to try space coke in the blender and have sex with as many stunning bitches as your goddamn dick will allow, because this place is going to be ALL about temptation, and you will ALL be groomed for the party with lifetimes of legacy under your belt. Some decent god-fearing people will suceed at resisting temptation, but the Gods will facilitate temptation.
It will be the rare individual who makes the transistion in an enviornment where you can have anything you want. I believe those who survive these temptations must return to an Earth-like planet, for they have to begin again. Ascention must ocurr from planet of origin.
"Going along" will "earn" your invitation to the Second Coming of Christ. You will be reincarnated until that age comes, buy you a mere 1000 years and cost you your chance at immortality, simply because you bought into evil as "earning" and subscribed to the big lie.
Not everyone will be going. They will tell some of you to ignore the Second Coming event, and it will cost you your life, ironically. Blacks, on the other hand, will be asked TO folllow the Second Coming, simply because as an Italian religion blacks who pursue Christianity will die in the Apocalypse because of it.
Never doubt that Muslims are your superiors. These people are dedicated to their religion while your population have abandoned churches in droves.

We no longer see orphanages for good reason::::The state would be forced to use professionals, experts in their field, to devise standards these facilities would apply to raising the children. These standards would illustrate ideal rearing goals which could set a positive example for all in society. Instead of enjoying the best possible childhood learning experience, these grossly disfavored children are instead subject to the preditory evil of the guardian with whom they are placed.
This is an outstanding example of reverse positioning and how the Gods created a society where evil appears not only good but also socially acceptable.
Civil Righs is a similar issue. Segregation in today's age would command full funding for black universities and full respect for well established multiple black journalism and media outlets, not this integrated white media cancer where blacks eat what they are fed.
What people allow the Gods via positioning matters. Black civil rights is a good example::::
Yes, there may still be a black talk show parading the myriad of black relationship ugliness out for the world to see, but there would also be good black programming that was healthy and worthwhile. As it is, the God's Italian positioning dictates only poison for blacks via the white media, and the healthy black programming doesn't exist because of it. Such is the aftermath of Civil Right's assimilation.

Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person. I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area. In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
Mt.Diablo, "The Devil" is the "eye" of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw. Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet, represented my Silicone Valley.
The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God's refusal to accept any culpability for its devistation.
Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc. The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond. Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
Another feature which the Gods offer as a clue is very foreboading and ominous. Mt. Zion is a mountain to the north of Diablo and one which has a working quarry at its base. Consistant with the decay we experience in society, Mt. Zion is being eaten away, slowly stripped of its resources, until one day paradise will be gone forever.
There was a time when once the Gods "divinely" inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God. They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity. Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on "earning", incurring no culpability in the process. The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind's favor in the eyes of the Gods leading to the Apocalypse.

The Man in The Moon is yet another of the God's clues, and it illustrates the favor the Gods could bestow upon us if we behave appropriately.
Conversely, there is also a clue in the dark side of the Moon:::A side we never see and is hidden from view. Concealed by their positioning, this represents the Gods punishment when the people disobey their rules dictating the meaning of a decent life.

The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean.
Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah's Flood disaster.
Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily "caught" the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
In the 20th century the Italians were convinced entering clone hosting was ascention into heaven, and their success was a recruiting tool, just as the Holocaust was for the Jews, only duress is far less damaging.

The women have God's favor, and when the women do all the evil, as was the case in my family, this serves to "equalize" the playing field, ensuring no wisdom comes to this family as they grow older. As a result they never make progress and achieve the lowest possible placement when reincarnated.

Couple years ago a story in the media how girls in Bayview-Hunter's Point were going into puberty at a progressively younger age, as young as age 7.
A very bad sign::::Early cut-off. It draws the boys attention and they subsequently make sexual mistakes, very similar to what typical people experience nearly a decade later.
When they "turn" people on and start telepathically talking to them with this technology is very similar::The end of their chance. They segment families, convince them "earning" is the way, etc.
I tell people to examine the change between when they were children and after they began to hear this technology in their head. It is the difference between good and evil.
I understand people's confusion:::They literally hear "God" in their head, as opposed to what was taught to them in some church's classroom. But this technology is one of the God's tools, and much like their other tools, clone hosts and prophets (see below), they use them as temptation.

Instead of helping them, missionaries are actually HURTING people, inflicting them with westernization and Christianity. Whereas some may have seen up to a full 1% of their children ascend into heaven you pathetic white Americans can't even muster a fraction of that, and your perceived good intentions decrease that rate even further.
These people have a better chance of ascending into heaven, and Americans unwittingly are being used to reduce/eliminate this chance with their misled good intentions which deteriorate into preditory intentions as they begin to understand this, maximizing the damage they incurr from the Gods.

COMPILATION PARAGRAPH::::
This IS the event. I am the telepathic prophet.
There may have been no other way in today's modern age:::Use popular culture as temptation and keep teachings primarily telepathic.
The Gods must be willing to allow Artificial Intelligence to act as my "bible", repeating all teachings I have made for future generations. This will ocurr but I am afraid only among the miniscule minority "haves", leaving the "have-nots" lost in ignorance and cast into Damnation::We are going to have a real, full-blown Apocalypse.
Part of this societal deterioration is cloaked in the way society functions::::Two-parent working households, rushing around, constantly occupied.
Your children NEED TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THEIR THOUGHTS, FOR THIS IS the age WHEN THEY GODS COMMUNICATE THE TRUTH.
Much as with the celestial event which occured that day on Ocean Beach, they say when I die there will be some final clue to the people suggesting my importance. Perhaps a "Star of Bethlehem" type of event.
They say some children see a halo on my head in various brightness. These are the children who have a chance to ascend.
America and Christianity synonymous::::Punishment for Europeans.
You don't want to grill the Gods as to why something is viewed as negative or disapproved of.
The Gods have placed many things in today's society which facilitate temptation, and you can trust anything that varies from tradition or orthodoxy would be viewed as such.

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The voice you hear in your head is the power of the Gods. It's a remote technology, like a computer, perhaps functioning on some frequency, and it can listen and talk to everyone in the universe simultaneously.
What the Gods taught the children was the truth:::God is everywhere, and this is what they meant. I will remind you of another principle you learned as a child:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Even the antient Gods don't have the ability to listen to people's thoughts themselves. They taugh we were all made in their image:::I expect they need this "Artificial Intelligence" they created to relay what people think.
It is a tool, and the Gods use their tools to test people with temptation:::It will role-play people in your life:::Parents, friends, spouses, and employers, all in an attempt to test people with temptation. Ironically, it does the very same thing to those people whom you think you're hearing, except in that individual's unique way:::We are all "managed" by the God's technology.
But this agent of the Gods can do more than just communicate. It can force thoughts into people's heads, force behaviors onto their bodies. It can turn healthy cells in your body into cancerous cells. It is absolute power. And this is just the beginning.

Obedience is not the answer. This is the brain-less response and the easy way out.
You've done everything you have been told for years and it never bought you ANYTHING. Your parents did what they were told and it didn't buy them anything. Your grandparents did everything they were told and now they're dead, reincarnated as lesser life forms, perhaps even into America's deranged, violent ghettos.
People think they are not responsible when Artificial Intelligence tells them to do something. They offeed a clue with the Holocaust AND with Watergate:::Defy authority and do the right thing.
In earlier decades this obedience may have been out of fear, as so often in Germany, but that era is long over. To maximize damamge the Gods today sell them on "earning" and these people think they will profiteer from their evil.
They offer a clue on the Simpsons with Flanders and Skinner. So many ridicule both figures, a testiment to the state of our society.

The Gods favor the children most among all the people due to their innocence and purity. But society and the God's tools recently are corrupting the children at a progressively younger age, a reflection of our collectively increasing disfavor and yet another clue illustrating we live in a increasingly deteriorating environment.
Children who sucessfully repair their relationship with the Gods ascend into heaven. This often takes multiple lives of hard work and proper behavior in the face of adversity to achieve. Adults to whom it is offered enter clone hosting instead, thinking they will be ascending into heaven ultimately. The Gods tempt people, selling them as one in the same, but one is good while the other is evil. In their desperation the disfavored subscribe to this temptation, making their task even more difficult than before due to the evil they incurr in the process. And their corruption will cost the disfavored, for they will be reincarnated as a lesser life form into an ever deteriorating world, sucess becoming ever more allusive with each passing life.
The hole they've dug for themselves is even deeper than the one that existed from their prior lives, ensuring it will take even more time and work to fix their problems with the Gods. And for many there may not be enough time left.

Ours is an envionment where evil is perceived to be rewarded while good is punished. As with everything the Gods have a reason for creating this perception::::
People who fall on the good side of the good/evil scale have more favor, and when they do something wrong the Gods punish them BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO LEARN. The Gods want them to receive this feedback in hope they make corrections and begin to behave appropriately. The Gods DON'T like evil and refuse to grant this immediate feedback.
EVERYBODY pays for what they do wrong, only evil people must wait until the end of this or their next life before they will experience the wrath of the Gods, manifested in their placement as a lower form of life into environments with increased/enhanced temptations, like the United States or its ghettos therein.
Sadly, this allows the Gods to position this perception of evil rewarded as temptation, one which they use as an EXTREMELY effective corruptor.
Example:::Punishment for gay marriage in Iowa was immediate and painful, a sign of favor of these God-fearing, church-going Midwesterners.

The Gods suggest they can create paradise for those with their favor. I argue they create misery for those without::::
Our celebrity culture is temptation. It creates a distraction which consumes people, sometimes for life. Certainly it costs them precious years which could be spent repairing their relationship with the Gods, time that ultimately goes wasted.
Do you really think Frank Sinatra lived to be 84 years old? In fact the "Chairman of the Board" had a new crowd to entertain in the late 80s/early 90s.
These people are clone hosts. Now, there is no thing as "black and white" with the Gods. This technology they invented is far, far too dynamic. Expect they require most to stay for a period of time, for I suspect actively (knowingly) engaging in this evil incurrs at an accelerated rate as compared to "carte blanche" given regarding successive clone hosts. They remain until they achieve a pre-determined level of disfavor, incurring evil in their misguided celebration of "earning", at which time they are ultimately reincarnated, perhaps because they eventually learned this truth I am sharing with you and began to repair their relationship or until the Gods became disgusted and sent them back.
No, not all celebrities are fake. Expect those who get out early in their career to likely be the real thing.
The Gods recruit most for clone hosting when people are young, in their late teens or twenties, when people are eager to hurt others for what they perceive to be the benefits achieved through "earning". And before they leave they give the Gods "carte blanche":::"Do anything you want. I give my full approval." Depending on their level of disfavor the Gods take them to heart.
Because of this these people STILL INCUR EVIL FROM THIS LIFE DESPITE BEING REINCARNATED AND LIVING AS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON and living in our temptation-ridden society. And incurring this amount of evil may likely push many over the edge into Damnation.
What are the God's standards for offering clone hosting? Sociobility? Many tactics in various eras are used to gain approval, duress during the Vietnam draft being a good example, one which deteriorated into preditation as mankind's disfavor grew.
They liked Heath Ledger. Not enough to allow him to escape without the evil of "Dark Knight" and the horrific wickedness that was the recruiting tool "Brokeback Mountain". But now he is out. And irregardless of how old he is now, reincarnated 10, 15 years ago, he now is no longer incurring evil from this life. So many others cannot say the same.

This is Planet Reverse Positioning. Sucess IS NOT a sign of favor. It is just a unique temptation targetted towards a different level of disfavor. Considering our roots as peasantry people should be particularly alarmed at this tactic.
Clone hosting is like money:::A different level of disfavor and its associated temptation. Money is in better position to learn more quickly than those without, for the associations and wealth-based freedom enables them access to information. Unfortunately, those who fall for this temptation of clone hosting are likely returned to their original lowest level of disfavor once they are reincarnated, punishment for this evil, and they have to start from scratch.

Our society's values are bestowed by (a reflection of) the God's:::Punitive and reward-based. Contrary to Jesus's teaching's you will NOT be forgiven and you have to earn your way into heaven BY BEING RESPECTABLE AND DECENT!!!
Not by being evil and wicked.
Forgiveness/savior was the primary temptations the Gods used Christianity to create.
Middle-America's anti-Semitic attitudes are a clue regarding Christianity. Europe shaped like a sheep is symbolic for the slaughter that is Christinaity.
Christianity is punishment for Europeans.
You ALL hate Jews::"They own banking, they control Hollywood and poison our children's minds, etc etc.") YET YOU PRAY TO ONE LIKE A GOD!!
Dislodge your head from your ass. Must you be chumps your WHOLE LIVES???
There is no such thing as a free ride. Just as you have to earn a living by working so must you earn your own salvation by repairing your relationship with the Gods.
As we learned from religious/morality education during our formitable years:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good. The only savior that will exist in our lives is ourselves. The Gods offer clues in life::::Be it school, work, etc., you have to do the work for yourself and when you do something wrong you get punished. Cheating is a subsegment and speaks directly to the temptation of "priveledge", one we have seen used effectively when the United States preyed on the disfavored with the so-called "stimulus package".
As like so many of you, Jesus did everything the Gods tempted him with. His legacy of whorism was inherited from his parents:::Mary was no virgin. Rather, she was a prostitute, and when he grew up Jesus met someone like his mother. This is a cruel joke the Gods play on Latinos, similar to the sexual violation and subsequent "missionary work" by the Spanish.
Baptism does not allieviate "original sin". Rather, baptism PLACES original sin by indoctrinating these children into this evil religion, much like circumcision was a method to inflict early damage/mutilation and make (permanant) accention just that much more difficult, another hurdle one must overcome. Body ornamentation (tattoos/piercing), celebrated in Africa and elsewhere among disfavored peoples/cultures, also violates the body the Gods gave us in their image, quite opposite to the positive attitudes the disfavored hold regarding this practice.
Like Jesus the Second Coming of Christ will be evil. He will look like a savior in this demented society while the Anti-Christ will speak of a different gospel, one that tries to restore the norms and mores which the Gods originally blessed upon the people which made life decent, looking like a tyrant in the process.
He will be viewed as the "bad guy" when really he is the one trying to save the world.
There may be a phoney offering, a theatrical production which accurately follows the Book of Revelations. Actually positioning demands it:::::Christianity is positioned to be the one true religion. And those who follow its teachings will have limits imposed ensuring their stay will be minimal, a "consolation prize", for they don't think correctly and therefore don't behave appropriately, or perhaps will be used to colonize the new Planet Earth. This describes many "sinners" in today's society because they refuse to change their behavior.
Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person. I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area. In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
Mt.Diablo, "The Devil" is the "eye" of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw. Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet.
The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God's refusal to accept any culpability.
Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc. The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond. Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
There was a time when once the Gods "divinely" inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God. They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity. Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on "earning", incurring no culpability in the process. The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind's favor in the eyes of the Gods.

Life is a test, and the Gods evaluate people based on their performance.
The Gods test people with the temptation for which they are most weak::::
Homosexuals desire sodomy, preditors pursue the hunt, alcoholics crave a drink, junkies jones for dope, etc.
Addiction theory is a lie; it is Artificial Intelligence creating the desire, punishment for inappropriate behavior. Ironically, it compells people deeper into the behavior, minimizing hope for recovery.
The Gods chose Christianity for Europeans because it is the temptation to which they are most suseptable:::Entitlement. Something for nothing. A free ride. Irresponsible behavior. The United States/Western civilization's accompanying wealth contributes to this perception. And other people from throughout the world happily subscribe to this punishment designed for Europeans, assuming this legacy once assimilated.
Next time you think of Muslims recognize these people are vastly superior to Christians. Whereas many throughout the Christian world no longer attend church and have fallen into Godlessness, the Muslim world worships the Gods for OVER AN HOUR EACH AND EVERY DAY.

The Gods created the perception "Italians are stupid.", ensuring a slow learning curve, to justify using them to accomplish goals throughout the transitional 20th century. It took an extraordinarily long time for them to learn this truth I teach due to this artificial handicap. These people are SO extremely disfavored, but today's positioning says differently, much to people's confusion, for they think money is the ultimate sign of favor:::Good food, good music, history of warmongering, Catholics, Christianity HQ, Noah's Flood event, propensity towards violence, sexual violation by outsiders, mild Meditereanean climate, so many other issues which enhance life/contentment in Italy/Meditereanean and ensure few if any seek more, a necessary step for finding the path and repairing your relationship with the Gods.
Contentment never motivated anyone. Money is not a sign of favor::::Wisdom is the true wealth on Planet Earth.
I'd also like to remind you the Noah's Flood event ocurred in the Meditereanean region::::Global sea levels rose with the end of the ice age, Atlantic Ocean broke through the Straight of Gibralter, killing untold millions in the cradle of western civilization. The God's timed their corruption and sin to correlate this act as punishment.
The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean.
Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah's Flood disaster.
Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily "caught" the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
Think about this next time you are deceived by the God's positioning of Italian wealth.

Everyone who failed to ascend and remained on Earth past a certain date will be forced to deal with this positioning::::A ceiling is in place. This serves the God's goal of minimizing the percentage of potential candidates as society deteriorates, much as "instant gratification" did beginning in the 80s:::It will take multiple lives for the disfavored to fix their relationship with the Gods and ascend, and many have been conditioned not to have the patience for it. Other issues force limits/ceilings upon candidates:::Abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, Christianity, godlessness,
Whether behavior is involuntary or based on freewill depends on one's level of disfavor, as well as other complex factors:::::May I remind you about the coercitive envionment the Gods created in the 20th century, specifically to create a temptation that few Italians (or their associates) would overcome:::"We're in control. If you want to be a part of it you'll do what you're told.". Early-mid 20th entury positioning was infallible.

Both Africa and the Medittereanean are regions which have sexual issues. This is a sign of gross disfavor once you understand that females are the God's favored gender. Muhammad's (Mohammed's) polygamy halfway throught his life as a prophet was preditory, designed to corrupt. Now a huge percentage of Muslims believe in male superiority and that the abuse of women (polygamy) is God's will. Female genital mutilation is still practiced in Africa. Black misogyny is the most eggregious example in United States. Consistant with Planet Reverse Positioning, in Africa blacks are being punished with AIDS for their sexual promiscuity in hope they learn and correct their behavior.
Blacks are highly suspectable to temptation. As a result they need a strict, disiplined religion like Islam. They can't afford to be Christians. It is one of the benefits bestowed upon their people, and other groups could greatly benefit as well. They need to recognize the importance of a good relationship with the Gods, embrace this benefit and remain true to their faith.
Vailing is tradition for some, practical for others, one which aids in the men's self control among some cultures. Much like the Jews who killed Jesus, like the bigots who oppose immigration there is a reason embraced by the masses and the real purpose, displaying the intent of the Gods::::The Gods clue to purebloods that they should not abandon their motherland for this dumping ground for rejects that is the United States.

The Holocaust was a clue the Gods utilize scapegoatting as a strategy.
Why did the Gods punish the Jews with the Holocaust? Was it for the destruction of cultures which Christianity caused? Perhaps they corrupted the Jews "after the fact", telling 19th/early 20th century Jews that Jesus "earned" immortality for the Jews by destroying the European and other cultures? The German destruction of European churches/cathederals during WWII is a clue. Note::::The Gods wanted to keep the Catholic stronghold in Italy, ensuring they could use this tool against these disfavored for many years to come. There is so much Godlessness today, but one day people will flock back to houses of worship out of desperation, and the Gods ensured the Catholic Church would be Italian's destination.
Planet Reverse Positioning:::The Nazis were the "good guys". So are the Muslims/Palestinians, however corrupted some are due to polygamy.
Contentment never motivated anyone::::Except perhaps for slavery, the Jews never saw more of their children ascend into heaven than during the Holocaust.
The Gods subsequently used revenge for the Holocaust as temptation::::"Your Italian brothers have a tool, a special power which can achieve sweet revenge. Are you interested??"
In the aftermath of the Holocaust the Gods tested the Jews with the temptation of revenge, an offer which many gladly accepted.
In an attempt to achieve revenge for genocide the Jews, thinking they were in partnership with the Italians, made efforts to impose as many Germans (Americans) into homsexuality in the 70s using this technology. Their motive with biotechnology's AIDS product may have been to finish the job off, revenge for the Holocaust.
There was positioning behind the counter-culture movement. How did the Gods telepathically "sell" this rapid deterioration of decency to the Italians and Jews and compell them to fall on their swords as preditors?
If the Jews only would have emersed themselves in Judism the Gods would have "protected" them from the raveges of temptation. Judism may be the one superior religion in all the world, and the Jews wouuld have been wise taking refuge in this exceptional benefit bestowed by the Gods rather than looking for the easy way out.

Much as with the Jesus event, the Gods use the disfavored to prey on each other.
The Gods use the evil that men do, man's inhumanity towards man to accomplish strategic testing/punishment/etc goals::::The Germans fell for this temptation by following the preditor/corruptor-Austrians (Hitler).
Without this Austrian the Holocaust may never have happened. Nor may have World War II.
What the Germans did was wrong. They fell for temptation and failed to have empathy for the disfavored. Economic desperation, not wisdom nor enlightenment, dominated in Germany.
The Gods send many clues suggesting the great favor of the Germans (regionally). I think the Cold War's Berlin Wall dividing Germany into east and west was a clue suggesting this (reverse positioning).
I suspect the Holocaust was used to "level the playing field" in Europe, for the Germans had far too much favor to be included in the agenda planned for their neighbors otherwise, and they would have been suspiciously out of place, providing a clue for the disfavored which would have been difficult for the Gods to position away.

Militancy in Africa is consistant with the Iraqi example, as was slavery and the KKK here in America:::Fear enforces proper behavior. Without it we see what happens as a result of gross/morbid disfavor:::::AIDS, crack babies, dead young men in gangland retaliation killings.
The same principle was true in Europe and throughout the world for centuries:::People whom lived under iron fists were conditioned to think the right way. As a result they taught their children appropriately and experienced a higher percentage of children ascend into heaven.
Our preditory envionment of "freedom" was the primary purpose the Gods had when implimenting this strategy that is the United States, one which they used to spred the cancer of democracy and westernization throughout the world. And the Gods use this tool that is America to prey on the disfavored both at home and abroad:::Much like the ghetto, America in general experiences a heightened level of temptation due to its citizen's disfavor.
Red white & blue IS BAD FOR YOU!!!
Planet Earth is not about living. Planet Earth is about being tested. And contentment never motivated anyone.
Your happy lives are costing you your chance.
Italians HATE Africans because of their invasion/sexual violation of their motherland. The Gods did this SPECIFICALLY to strategically position the punishment of the most disfavored peoples:::
The Gods have used the ghettos of America as a reincarnation dumping ground. This may be temporary/cyclical, illustrated by the Italians who fell for temptation and parlayed their own civil war into the Black Wars of the 80s and 90s, in addition to the "thug life"/gangster state of mind. Ironically, it was these same Italians and their cooperating associates who were reincarnated into the ghetto as crack babies and gangster thugs for this event.
There is justice in the universe. This is how the Gods do business. Once you recognize the patterns you will understand the other clues they offer to the people.
Of course it may be more of a permanant change, indicated by the enhanced temptations in these neighborhoods, for the Gods have created these enviornments so riddled with temptation few can escape/overcome.
Don't be suprised if after being gunned down in the ghetto the next stop for the 20th century Italian-Americans & friends was AIDS in Africa, punishment for their promiscuity and deviacy for some, involvement in the AIDS trade for others.
Media report on a crackdown on child prostitution. "(The pimps use coersion to prey on the children, etc, etc, other "conclusions" offered through the media.)" What a degenerate liar.
These kids WANT to turn tricks. They LOVE the idea of having a pimp. It is celebrated in their "culture".
Yet another legacy of the evil inflicted by the Italians, revenge for the invasion and sexual violation of Italy.
Maybe this was the destination for a smaller percentage of these deviates after AIDS in Africa, ironically.
There is a reason why we have these genocide events recently in Africa::::Black is one of the God's "dumping grounds", and they send offenders to these regions for punishment.
I call the monsters who destroyed our society in the 20th century. The next holocaust is mine.
Just like black neighborhoods, the legalization of marijuana will make drugs available on every street corner, even in the suburbs. White's affluent suburbs will become just like the ghetto. Once legalized the suburbs of America will become like the ghettos in the inner cities:::Drugs available on every corner. It will represent a MAJOR step towards societal deterioration and decay. Middle-aged men who have given up pot will resume consumption, and what little wisdom the masculinized women still pass on will lose effectiveness. Instead of being reincarnated based on the progress they make once mature, these men will be placed based on their mistakes, for less progress will be made.
The patriarchal cancer spread throughout Europe because of Christianity, of which the majority of policy makers were Italian men, destroying what pockets of favored matriarchy existed. Expect the largest landowner in Europe and the continent's original superpower also played the major role in African slavery.
The Gods offered a clue about the Italians in the movie "The Matrix":::They casted an Italian as the traitor of the group, the one who betrays them all.
As they did humanity in the 20th century.

Even the Old Testiment is not to always be taken literally, but the Gods do offer clues throughout to help the disfavored:::The apple is a tool of temptation used to corrupt Adam and Eve and cast them out of the Garden of Eden.
A metaphor for sex, it also serves as a warning.
There is another lesson to be learned from this passage, and it is quite similar to the vailing issue and the discourse over women's attire which ultimately died in the 70s:::Women are responsible for and control the fate of mankind.
So were there other issues "ridiculed away" as the Gods sought to transition into this Godless, immoral enviornment which society has become.
1. Decency/obsentiy in media
2. Corporal punishment for children
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The deterioration of society and mankind is all women's fault. Females are sexually promiscuous like men, many who too often are corrupted like the opposite gender, and the result is a reduction/minimization of mankind's collective level of favor, a very important step necessary for the Gods to justify the Apocalypse.
They need to understand this responsibility, their favor amongst all the people. Instead they have embraced masculinization::::Girls play organized sports, engage in casual sex like men. The trend is away from traditional girl toys, like dolls, which often during playtime helped crate positive thoughts, enabling the Gods to enlighten the favored gender and illustrate wisdom, occassionally leading to the path towards ascention.
There are many good men who become corrupted by the extreme members of the gender but they are manageable and easy to control if the women maintained their power. Instead they have let it slip away. I suspect there are many older women who remember their elders addressing them regarding this issue.
The relationship between men and women have always been complimentary:::The men shelter and protect women from the evils of this life, ensuring the women have a REAL opportunity to ascend when reincarnated, while the women help the ignert men understand by sharing their wisdom imparted by the Gods. The tendency towards sexual abstinence as one grows older is an example.
Brilliance and insight granted to Eastern cultures and religions::::Not for Europeans. If once existed, now crushed by Christianity. Replaced by preditory Mediterreanean patriarchy.
Europeans:::The most disfavored people on Earth. The first to experience the end of their God-granted favor.
Reverse positioning.

Think about what I say. Consider what I teach.
When I am no longer here or no longer teach the Gods ARE NOT going to share with you.
Even if you doubt now you need to remember the principles that I teach because the Gods ARE NOT going to be generous with the disfavored. Society is going to become disturbingly ugly as we approach the Apocalypse due to spiralling, runaway disfavor, WHETHER CONCEALED IN REVERSE POSITIONING OR NOT (like Christianity, like money), and you are going to be on your own.
I do not know when this will occurr, but it is the God's way to grant some time after a learning event such as this before they will end on Planet Earth.
Make the decision to always be good and never look back. Until you do this technology will employ tactics to test your resolve:::Ridicule, beligerance, doubt and refusal to abandon what people perceive to be their "investment".
Either you make that decision now and accept the punishment for the sins of this life or you will pay for it in the next, reincarnated into a similarly low role, ensuring another wasted opportunity, or as an even lower form of life, and hope will begin to slip away.
Another lifetime, shot to hell.
Young people who understand yet still wish to have children MUST begin to do the right thing and work on fixing their relationship with the Gods, accepting the punishment for the evil they have done in their lives. Without this progress they won't do the correct thing for their children and ultimately cause even more problems for themselves by perpetuating this behavior into a new generation.
You must be willing to tell the Gods "No." when tested with temptation, and accepting punishment and putting it in your past is the only way you will suceed as a parent.
You need to do your best, teach your children decency and morality and give them the very best chance to ascend if you want a similar opportunity in your next life.
If you do well for your children now your parents will do well for you when reincarnated.
Pray daily. Think appropriately. You are vulnerable. Live this reality in your daily lives. Impart these charecteristics upon your children. Too many are confident, unaware of the God's awesome powers or their status as antients. Others may fall prey to their positioning.
Be humbled, God-fearing and beware of the God's temptations, for everyone is tested to evaluate their worthiness.

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"WHAT DO WE DO NOW???" I recommend you spend time on this. Think about what you've done wrong and how you can repair your relationship with the Gods. Get creative. Don't forget what I said:::Look to your parent's sins to understand what you have done wrong in a prior life, for the Gods match this legacy when selecting placement.
This is where the cream rises to the top. It's going to matter in the end.
You must attone for what you have done wrong. You all understand the evil, immoral things you have done in your life. Go to the people you have wronged and make amends for what you did wrong. This could be very painful and you may feel great resistance. It is Artificial Intelligence-based temptation. Muster the courage and go see these people.
If your parents pilfer from their employer then expect theft is one of your past-life sins. Adultery, alcoholism/drugs, dishonesty, immorality all would indicate problems you have had in the past. Doing so should help you get a good start repairing your relationship and working towards ascention in a future life.

American Samoa football players on 60 Minutes. Years ago I researched moving there with my phantom lottery money. Upon doing so I learned of the American territory's sub-minimum wages at the largest employer, the cannery.
Years later I thought of it and I think mentioned it, reinforcing a statement. Days later (9.29.09) the Gods hammered the island with a massive earthquake/tsunami which resulted in great damage. Now I learn the UnitedStates passed minimum wage laws subsequently and the corporation announced they were shutting the tuna cannery.
And there are many other examples like this.

There's the name connection with Hurricane Katrina. How it helped the blacks have a new chance contradicts the typical disaster surrounding this Situation.
We have the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile this year. Remember, I called mom for possibly being reincarnated a Haitian slave years ago and loved to badmouth shitty Chilean fruit for tasting like nothing.
Name connection with NY stock Exchange administration corruption, sexy ass-2-mouth football player and more. Appearance clue with Intimidator, Artist Formerly Known and more.
They say the 5150 album cover is a clue:::VH was supposed to be done. Again, over and over the gods use the modern prophet as temptation, for all prophets are tools and, after all, nothing's free.
It seems when I badmouth evil it helps them, while when I badmouth good it hurts them::::Donald Trump got The Apprentice while Dick Clark got a stroke and Gorilla got into a car crash. The difference? I've only helped evil. I've educated everybody but the Gods have used me as temptation to only help evil financially.
Praised Union76 as the best gas then they lost the NASCAR sponsorship. The rest is history. RED,WHITE&BLUE IS BAD FOR YOU!!! Always evil. The Gods d